Discussion:
USB disk problems - Sun Blade 150
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d***@snakebrook.com
2008-05-20 01:16:50 UTC
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I have an Ultra 60 which has a Belkin USB/firewire PCI card in it. I
have an external drive enclosure and I can see the drives. read/write
etc. No problems.

Now I have an Blade 150 and I plug this same card into it and doing
an /usr/bin/rmformat hangs. Will sit there over night if I let it. If
I take the USB cable and plug it into any of the standard USB ports
(Not the Belkin card) and
rmformat says the following:


Looking for devices...
1. Volmgt Node: /vol/dev/aliases/cdrom0
Logical Node: /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s2
Physical Node: /***@1f,0/***@d/***@1,0
Connected Device: PIONEER 16X DVD-ROM 1.21
Device Type: DVD Reader


It's only when I plug my USB 2.0 external drive into *any* USB port
(Belkin or blade 150 USB ports) on the blade 150 that seems to cause
this problem.


From the blade 150:

SunOS beech 5.10 Generic_120011-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100

It's the latest version of Solaris I believe.

Any guidance appreciated.


Dan
d***@snakebrook.com
2008-05-20 01:34:35 UTC
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Another question, out of curiosity, are the USB ports on a Blade 150
USB 1.1 or 2.0?

The Belkin card is model number: F5U508. It is a 'supported' card.



Dan
Greg Menke
2008-05-20 11:33:29 UTC
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Post by d***@snakebrook.com
It's only when I plug my USB 2.0 external drive into *any* USB port
(Belkin or blade 150 USB ports) on the blade 150 that seems to cause
this problem.
SunOS beech 5.10 Generic_120011-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100
It's the latest version of Solaris I believe.
Any guidance appreciated.
I'd bet a penny the 150's usb port isn't negiotiating the usb 2 device
down properly. If theres a free pci slot, add another belkin or equiv
card to the 150 and try that. I tried some usb external hard disks on
my Blade 2k, they mounted but were <very> slow because of the
motherboard usb 1.whatever.

Gregm
d***@snakebrook.com
2008-05-21 01:02:16 UTC
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Post by Greg Menke
Post by d***@snakebrook.com
It's only when I plug my USB 2.0 external drive into *any* USB port
(Belkin or blade 150 USB ports) on the blade 150 that seems to cause
this problem.
SunOS beech 5.10 Generic_120011-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100
It's the latest version of Solaris I believe.
Any guidance appreciated.
I'd bet a penny the 150's usb port isn't negiotiating the usb 2 device
down properly.  If theres a free pci slot, add another belkin or equiv
card to the 150 and try that.  I tried some usb external hard disks on
my Blade 2k, they mounted but were <very> slow because of the
motherboard usb 1.whatever.
Gregm
I tried 2 Belkin PCI USB cards. Both listed as supported. Same thing
on both cards. rmformat hangs.


Dan
Greg Menke
2008-05-21 11:28:45 UTC
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Post by d***@snakebrook.com
Post by Greg Menke
Post by d***@snakebrook.com
It's only when I plug my USB 2.0 external drive into *any* USB port
(Belkin or blade 150 USB ports) on the blade 150 that seems to cause
this problem.
SunOS beech 5.10 Generic_120011-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100
It's the latest version of Solaris I believe.
Any guidance appreciated.
I'd bet a penny the 150's usb port isn't negiotiating the usb 2 device
down properly.  If theres a free pci slot, add another belkin or equiv
card to the 150 and try that.  I tried some usb external hard disks on
my Blade 2k, they mounted but were <very> slow because of the
motherboard usb 1.whatever.
Gregm
I tried 2 Belkin PCI USB cards. Both listed as supported. Same thing
on both cards. rmformat hangs.
So much for that theory, does dmesg show anything interesting?

Gregm
Rainer Beushausen
2008-05-20 11:35:22 UTC
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Post by d***@snakebrook.com
I have an Ultra 60 which has a Belkin USB/firewire PCI card in it. I
have an external drive enclosure and I can see the drives. read/write
etc. No problems.
Now I have an Blade 150 and I plug this same card into it and doing
an /usr/bin/rmformat hangs. Will sit there over night if I let it. If
I take the USB cable and plug it into any of the standard USB ports
(Not the Belkin card) and
Looking for devices...
1. Volmgt Node: /vol/dev/aliases/cdrom0
Logical Node: /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s2
Connected Device: PIONEER 16X DVD-ROM 1.21
Device Type: DVD Reader
Have you tried to shut down vold first, then dowing a
rmformat -l?

What about /var/adm/messages? The external drive should be
logged as new USB device.

Rainer
d***@snakebrook.com
2008-05-21 01:03:07 UTC
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Post by Rainer Beushausen
Post by d***@snakebrook.com
I have an Ultra 60 which has a Belkin USB/firewire PCI card in it. I
have an external drive enclosure and I can see the drives. read/write
etc. No problems.
Now I have an Blade 150 and I plug this same card into it and doing
an /usr/bin/rmformat hangs. Will sit there over night if I let it. If
I take the USB cable and plug it into any of the standard USB ports
(Not the Belkin card) and
Looking for devices...
     1. Volmgt Node: /vol/dev/aliases/cdrom0
        Logical Node: /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s2
        Connected Device: PIONEER  16X DVD-ROM      1.21
        Device Type: DVD Reader
Have you tried to shut down vold first, then dowing a
rmformat -l?
Yes, vold is not running.
Post by Rainer Beushausen
What about /var/adm/messages? The external drive should be
logged as new USB device.
Rainer
Huge
2008-05-21 09:12:13 UTC
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Post by d***@snakebrook.com
I have an Ultra 60 which has a Belkin
Well, that's your problem, right there.
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AGT
2008-05-21 15:13:43 UTC
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Post by Huge
Post by d***@snakebrook.com
I have an Ultra 60 which has a Belkin
Well, that's your problem, right there.
Really? I dont know the specs of the Belkin card, but the Addonics
I have needs a 66 MHz slot as I recall. Not even sure it fits in
the 33's. And the Ultra 60 has one 66 MHz slot so...
One of doa's problems is believing that 120011-14 is the latest
kernel release.... It was released Sep/12/07
Huge
2008-05-21 15:42:04 UTC
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Post by AGT
Post by Huge
Post by d***@snakebrook.com
I have an Ultra 60 which has a Belkin
Well, that's your problem, right there.
Really?
Yep. I've been bitten enough times by Belkin's junk that I won't buy it any
more.
--
"Be thankful that you have a life, and forsake your vain
and presumptuous desire for a second one."
[email me at huge {at} huge (dot) org <dot> uk]
AGT
2008-05-21 15:47:35 UTC
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Post by Huge
Post by AGT
Post by Huge
Post by d***@snakebrook.com
I have an Ultra 60 which has a Belkin
Well, that's your problem, right there.
Really?
Yep. I've been bitten enough times by Belkin's junk that I won't buy it any
more.
: > Hmm Bilk-in then.. Interesting.
Rich Teer
2008-05-21 22:31:29 UTC
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Post by Huge
Yep. I've been bitten enough times by Belkin's junk that I won't buy it any
more.
Interesting. Belkin's USB port cards are the only ones I could
get to work severeal years ago. I have two: a 5 port USB 2.0
card, and a USB 2.0/Firewire combo card.
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Dave
2008-05-21 23:36:00 UTC
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Post by Rich Teer
Post by Huge
Yep. I've been bitten enough times by Belkin's junk that I won't buy it any
more.
Interesting. Belkin's USB port cards are the only ones I could
get to work severeal years ago. I have two: a 5 port USB 2.0
card, and a USB 2.0/Firewire combo card.
I've got a combo card and notice Solaris 10 update 4 disables the
support of USB 2.0, but there is a note of how it can be enabled. Not
sure exactly what the risks are, but there are notes in /var/adm/messages

See below.


May 9 21:31:47 kestrel genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] scsa2usb1 is
/***@8,600000/***@1/***@1
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1/***@1 (scsa2usb1) online
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 2.0 device
(usb1058,1100) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 1.10 root hub:
***@2, scsa2usb2 at bus address 3
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel usba: [ID 349649 kern.info] Western Digital
My Book 57442D574341534A31323239363830
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] scsa2usb2 is
/***@8,600000/***@1/***@2
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1/***@2 (scsa2usb2) online
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel scsi: [ID 193665 kern.info] sd1 at scsa2usb1:
target 0 lun 0
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] sd1 is
/***@8,600000/***@1/***@1/***@0,0
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel scsi: [ID 193665 kern.info] sd2 at scsa2usb2:
target 0 lun 0
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] sd2 is
/***@8,600000/***@1/***@2/***@0,0
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel usba: [ID 912658 kern.info] USB 2.0 device
(usb430,a2) operating at full speed (USB 1.x) on USB 2.0 external hub:
***@4, hid6 at bus address 4
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel usba: [ID 349649 kern.info] Sun USB Keyboard
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] hid6 is
/***@8,700000/***@5,3/***@2/***@4
May 9 21:31:47 kestrel genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info]
/***@8,700000/***@5,3/***@2/***@4 (hid6) online
May 9 21:31:48 kestrel genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1/***@1/***@0,0 (sd1) online
May 9 21:31:48 kestrel genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1/***@2/***@0,0 (sd2) online
May 9 21:31:50 kestrel usba: [ID 723738 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1,2 (ehci0): Due to recently discovered incompatibilities
May 9 21:31:50 kestrel usba: [ID 723738 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1,2 (ehci0): with this USB controller, USB2.x transfer
May 9 21:31:50 kestrel usba: [ID 723738 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1,2 (ehci0): support has been disabled. This device will
May 9 21:31:50 kestrel usba: [ID 723738 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1,2 (ehci0): continue to function as a USB1.x controller.
May 9 21:31:50 kestrel usba: [ID 723738 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1,2 (ehci0): If you are interested in enabling USB2.x
May 9 21:31:50 kestrel usba: [ID 723738 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1,2 (ehci0): support please, refer to the ehci(7D) man
page.
May 9 21:31:50 kestrel usba: [ID 723738 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1,2 (ehci0): Please also refer to www.sun.com/io for
May 9 21:31:50 kestrel usba: [ID 723738 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1,2 (ehci0): Solaris Ready products and to
May 9 21:31:50 kestrel usba: [ID 723738 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1,2 (ehci0): www.sun.com/bigadmin/hcl for additional
May 9 21:31:50 kestrel usba: [ID 723738 kern.info]
/***@8,600000/***@1,2 (ehci0): compatible USB products.
May 9 21:31:52 kestrel pcisch: [ID 370704 kern.info] PCI-device:
***@5,1, eri0
May 9 21:31:52 kestrel genunix: [ID 936769 kern.info] eri0 is
/***@8,700000/***@5,1
May 9 21:31:52 kestrel genunix: [ID 454863 kern.info] dump on
/dev/dsk/c1t1d0s1 size 8194 MB
Greg Menke
2008-05-22 02:11:52 UTC
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Post by Rich Teer
Post by Huge
Yep. I've been bitten enough times by Belkin's junk that I won't buy it any
more.
Interesting. Belkin's USB port cards are the only ones I could
get to work severeal years ago. I have two: a 5 port USB 2.0
card, and a USB 2.0/Firewire combo card.
Doesn't really matter, Belkin packages the NEC usb chip on their boards
the same as everyone else does, which is why the board works in Solaris.
My issue is with their switches and UPS's...

Gregm
d***@snakebrook.com
2008-05-24 12:46:38 UTC
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Post by d***@snakebrook.com
I have an Ultra 60 which has a Belkin USB/firewire PCI card in it. I
have an external drive enclosure and I can see the drives. read/write
etc. No problems.
Now I have an Blade 150 and I plug this same card into it and doing
an /usr/bin/rmformat hangs. Will sit there over night if I let it. If
I take the USB cable and plug it into any of the standard USB ports
(Not the Belkin card) and
Looking for devices...
     1. Volmgt Node: /vol/dev/aliases/cdrom0
        Logical Node: /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s2
        Connected Device: PIONEER  16X DVD-ROM      1.21
        Device Type: DVD Reader
It's only when I plug my USB 2.0 external drive into *any* USB port
(Belkin or blade 150 USB ports) on the blade 150 that seems to cause
this problem.
SunOS beech 5.10 Generic_120011-14 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-100
It's the latest version of Solaris I believe.
Any guidance appreciated.
Dan
I think this card needed to be reseated as after moving it around into
the various PCI slots, all seems to be fine now. Although the blade
150 would not boot with the Belkin card in the top PCI slot, it works
fine in the bottom 2 PCI slots.


Thanks for all of your suggestions.


Dan

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